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>> america's mid terms will have a full run down of the states that will determine control of the senate and coverage of critical issues that will affect the outcome. and why can't most politicians seem to tell the truth? hello i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this," those stories and much more straight ahead. >> the president was heckled by hispanic activists. >> need to go republicans. >> in the mid 30s. >> i.s.i.s. on the march.
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>> not fight against i.s.i.s. or ebola but what is happening with their bank accounts. >> after six years of borrowing and spending these people need to be stopped. >> the latest polling indicates,. senate. >> this is the last time to pass judgment ton obama administration. >> the republicans need a net gain of six senate seats. >> short of gop pickups. >> the democrats need to win new hampshire win north carolina win in kansas. >> i don't agree with the oddsmakers. i believe we'll keep the senate. >> we begin with candidates across the country making their final appeals for votes. tuesday's election is shaping up to be one of the most constituencyiful races in decades. republicans need to pick up six seats to recapture the senate chamber and the odds seem to be strongly in their favor . >> victory is in the air we're
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going to bring it home tomorrow night. >> but vice president joe biden said, democrats will rally to keep control of both houses. >> first of all i don't agree with the oddsmakers. i believe we'll be able to keep the senate. i've been in 67 races and i don't believe the oddsmakers. >> a blog dedicated to u.s. electoral analysis, batted a thousand with his predictions two years ago. sam very good to have you with us. let's start with your analysis of the senate race. you think that likely or sure things for the republicans are 48 seats, the democrats, 45. so that means there are seven races still in play. alaska, colorado, georgia, iowa, kansas kansas, north carolina and new hampshire. big question what do you think
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is going to happen in those sefng races? >> well -- seven races? >> well, here's the difficulty those race are all within less than three percentage points within the median of recent surveys. if they broke the way they predicted we would have 51 republicans and therefore control for the republicans. however, polls have an error rate, it turns out polls prediction of the weber is only 55% in the past several races so there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty. >> the smallest of flips could have major implication is. the republicans could have 54 seats in the senate and the democrats 46 or the democrats have 52 in the senate and the republicans 48. >> that's right. we should not be surprised on election night for people to analyze
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polls like myself to get two or three wrong. when i was correct in 2012, that was very fortunate account not all races were that close, we have a record number of close races and i think there's surprises tomorrow night on election night. >> i know you've said you don't like using probability to forecast who will take control. for example today likelihood that the senate will go republican is anywhere from 70% according to the new york times to 95% according to cnn and 96 percent according to the washington post. so where do things stand on that frond front for you? are you willing to put a number on it? >> i think it's bold of cnn and the washington post to be so certain and certainly when statisticians make predictions they should be ready to say they're right and take their lumps when they're wrong.
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60% probability for the republicans to take over the reason for that as i said poles canpollscan be off. historically there is a bias in polls, entire group of polls altogether when you take an average or median they can be off three or four points in either direction. i think excess in confidence is really unwarranted at this time. i put the probability as i said at 60% knot more. >> what are you going to be looking at early on tuesday night give you an indication of where things are going? >> at the very earliest i'm going to look at the first states that close, and in which they are fast-reporting. i'm going to be watching new hampshire and kentucky. in new hampshire, jean sheheen is ahead, that's a good night for democrats because that bias may be the same in other states. on the other hand if she wins by
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less than that or she even loses then that is obviously not such a good night for democrats. similarly in kentucky mitch mcconnell is not in any real doubt now, he is leading allison lundergran grimes. if he wins by five points or less we should look to other states to have some surprises, some pleasant surprises for democrats. >> so let's talk about what many have talked about which is that this could be a way of election for the republicans if cnn and the washington post are right, they end up winning a lot of these races and take control of the senate does that necessarily mean that it is a wave election for republicans? because it's not same story when you're looking at state houses
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as who might win groafnls governor's rations. >> lot of them are reluctant to use the word wave. field that favors republicans so they have been expected all along to pick up seats. but honestly compared with expectations democrats have outperformed and it's been surprisingly hard-going. if you look as you just said at governor races, a lot of democrats are struggling. senators were elected in 2008 which was a great year for the democrats so they are struggling and they are also as i said in hostile ground for democrats friendly territory for republicans. and governors many of them were elected in 2010 and that was a banner year for the republicans. so in all cases the common theme that seems to be showing up is basically i would say a negative emotion from voters in which they are expressing dissatisfaction both the governors who have not governed to the voter satisfaction or to senate candidates who are in
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states that -- where the president is not very popular right now. >> i know you're going to be looking at the florida race for governor as one of those early indicators of whether the night is going for republicans or for democrats. >> yes, in florida right now if you look at the last six surveys completed over the last seven days, charlie crist leads in three of them. i would call that a median of crist lead of .5 percentage point, the fact that scott has not led in any survey, that's going to be super-close and one to watch late into the evening because i think that that still could go either way. and that's an example of a republican governor who's really having quite a bit of trouble getting reelected, rick scott. >> what about the polls and certain categories of voters latinos, millenials and women? those groups which have gone heavily for president obama in
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prior elections may not be going that strongly for the democrats? >> that's an interesting point. i would say that there's a distinctive pattern in which in presidential years those constituencies you have just named, certainly latinos and millennials will more likely turn out. turnout goes way down in mid term years. down 30% in mid term years so there's some question about whether they will share up. to paraphrase the pop song, it's all about that base. >> the women issues, democrats have talked a lot about women, is the gap narrowing according the polls and republicans having a big deficiency when it comes to women voting for them. >> there has been a gender gap. i don't think one should read much into that on either direction.
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very broadly speaking it might be an error to focus on issues considered women issues. men and women both want jobs and economic security. in many respects women and men are two halves of the human race and so i think there may be a gender gap but one should not take those fluctuations to seriously. >> two questions, i'll do it as one. best hope for a gop upset, best hope for a democratic upset? >> best hope for a gop upset would probably be i think kansas city for taking off the independent candidate, greg orman, who is owned ahead by one percentage point and i think the democrats might have an outside shot in winning in alaska. the republican dan sullivan has been favored but there's a lot of mystery up there and the mark beg
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begich campaign has and sullivan a relatively new arrival in alaska. >> sam it will be an interesting night, thank you. >> thank you. >> joining us from new orleans is randall pinkston. who has been covering the race closely. one of two senate races that may not be decided on election night. randall good to see you. mary landrieu of course long time senator down there fighting for her political survival against a whole bunch of candidates, principally two republicans, cassidy and mannis. >> all eyes are on senator landrieu the incumbent and bill cassidy the first term congressman, rising star of the republican party. mannis has tea party support, he
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is not expected to do much better than third place. he will likely draw votes from congressman cassidy which means that the race will go into a runoff. landrieu's hope for keeping her seat is getting 50 plus one in the election tomorrow, if she doesn't do that this race will go into december and most analysts are predicting that mannis's votes plus cassidy's will put landrieu out of office. >> this has been a nasty vote. mannis is a former kentucky colonel, who wrastled an alligator in one of his campaign ads. the south has not always been the friendliest place for african americans and noted that louisiana hasn't always been great for women. how has that been received
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there, as an effective hail mary pass to her base or mistake? >> reporter: well, you know at this point in her career, you have to believe that senator landrieu knew exactly what she was saying when she was saying it. she was asked a question by the reporter and she answered it. was it smart? would it possibly drive away people who are on the fence? you could argue that no one is on the fence by now. everyone know who mary landrieu is, you either like her or you don't. her characterization of voters in this part of the country not being kind to obama, among white voters in louisiana according to this poll only 20% approve of president obama. put another way 80% disapprove which is exactly the opposite from african american voters here. so landrieu was speaking honestly.
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and we should also say she was being consistent with her family. you know she's from a long line of politicians here. her father was the former mayor moon landrieu, he was the first mayor to integrate to de desegregate city haul. maybe holding it against mary landrieu who knows? she's reaching out to her base. she wants african americans to turn out in large numbers. that is likely the only way she has to get 50 plus one that she will need for victory. >> randall pinkston appreciate you joining us. in a programming note our coverage of the elections begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern. along with live reports throughout the night. two of the
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tightest races are north carolina and iowa. we'll get a look from someone who's been with the candidates for over a month. and a shift to latinos.and minutials and women? what do you think? >> an election day midterms marathon. >> it's gonna be close. >> several swing state elections are up for grabs. >> are you kidding me? >> don't miss filmmaker a.j. schnack's unprecedented... >> if i can drink this, i don't see why you should't be able to smoke that. >> behind the scenes look... >> are you gonna do this? >> at what it takes to win. >> it's certainly something that doesn't exist elsewhere in politics on television. >> midterms election day marathon. today, 1:00 eastern. only on al jazeera america.
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>> the balance of power in the u.s. senate could come down to iowa an north carolina, our next guest has had a unique inside track on both races because he's been filming all of the senate candidates for the past year. a.j. schnock is the executive producer of the al jazeera series. very reputable poll has him town by seven points in the senate race to republican joanie ernst
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and most polls show she's ahead. iowa democrats insist the race is much tighter. what is the real story? >> well as you mention it is not only a reputable poll it's considered the gold standard. iowa poll they get the numbers right probably better than almost anybody else. whether he's down seven is probably the question. most agree she's had about a two to three point lead for last month or so and i think that's probably where we stand going into tomorrow. >> now retiring democratic senator tom harkin has set off a last men controversy, set off a fire storm, when he said he didn't care if ernst was as attractive,. >> narrative that people have built the braley campaign in which they can't seem to have a good day. whether it's the harkin comment
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or the first lady mispronouncing his last name, they have really been in need of some solidly good days in the last month and they haven't had them. it needs this narrative of the gang who couldn't shoot straight. >> you've been in north carolina a lot covering kay hag kay hagen. >> probably why the hagan campaign is feeling good. if the early vote numbers are representative of what they'll see tomorrow then it's looking favorable for them. now, republicans will of course argue that in 2012 they were way
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down in the early voting and romney still carried the state. so it's probably too early to write off thom tillis but i think democrats feel better about north carolina than olot of the states they're campaigning in this year. >> very competitive, very negative races, what do you think will ultimately make the difference? >> well you know i think in iowa it's really how people feel about joanie ernst and that's the interesting tale all along, whether republicans are fired up and passionate about her or whether democrats are against her getting the seat. it's not about bruce braley, it's about joanie ernst. if they can drive out traditional democratic base, which is always a challenge, then kay hagan has the
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advantage. tillis has the advantage, that is something that has gone very badly for the state so they're more motivated to vote for hagan and against tillis in that race. >> al jazeera america will air a marathon on tuesday all three episodes will air starting at 1:00 p.m. eastern. joining us now to talk about all the closely watched races and what we can expect to happen on tuesday are lynn sweet, the washington bureau chief of the sun times, and here in new york we're joined by patrick murray and al jazeera political correspondent michael shore. lynn i'll start with you. earlier we heard lynn wong say seven states a tossup and others eight states in the
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tossup? new hampshire, north carolina, what burr your neighbor iowa democrats think it's essential to hold the state. will it go with ernst? >> that's what every poll shows. congressman bill braley has run a campaign where he's had unforced errors that hasn't helped. i would say it's a tossup right now tossup meaning she looks like she's ending ahead so the democrats should be bracing themselves for a potential defeat. but what the democrats have in iowa is they have in other states is a very well oiled turnout machine. i think that the hunt by democrats nationally and in places especially where they might be behind, big efforts to find what they call the sporadic or drop off year voter, the ones with democratic pro pens advertise so they can make up that deficit that they know is
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out there. >> patrick let's talk about louisiana, we just heard randall pinkston talk about what's going on there. eight candidates including two republicans. in the end sam wong says that's over there, it's going to be a republican state. you agree? >> yes the hypothetical matchups agree, whether they have a tea party or more mainstream republican, either way that mary lan you droo islandrieu is going to be on the losing end. >> new hampshire is one where everywhere thought jean shehe rvetionn would be sheeheenwas going to be able to win. >> early in the night, we're all going to be watching, looking at that race, because if early in
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the night you see that scott brown is running tight that they call that race early or that they don't call that race at all that's going to be an important part of election night and yeah, i mean that was one that the republicans said that we're going to let scott brown run casualty-bag, he's a well-known name in politics. casualty-bag isn't a derogatory word, it's not that we're going to look for a new hampshire candidate, but one that's marquee. dug adds by a fireplace, things of that sort, those help in new hampshire because of who he's going up on. >> one that is not going to be decided early is alaska. do you think mark begich can hold onto his seat? he's up against dan sullivan a republican. >> everyone is reporting it's going to be difficult for
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democrats to keep. there's nothing i've heard that counters that. >> and colorado -- >> colorado where the democrats are going to be a little surprising in the returns. i think it's going to be a little more democrat and part of that is because of early voting that's been instituted there in colorado. right now they have a hybrid method but what what happened in oregon happened in washington, when they introduced that vote by mail system, it increased turnout, and mark udall there the incumbent democrat has a chance, he's behind in all the polls. polls say this is corrie gardener's, and georgia would be the other place we would look at if they really v do have this machine that we're talking about this is where we're going to see it. >> that's where the latino vote is important and there is some argument as to whether latinos have been polled properly. >> yeah, we've seen that i don't
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think that's particularly the case. i think it's the early voting issue in colorado and one of the things we've got to remember with mid terms is nonwhite voters who vote democrat are less likely to turn out like they do in the presidential year. gender gaps are smaller in mid term elections so all these things hurt democrats. >> all those things make it easier to know where democrats are going after. that is a structural problem. in states where there were big turnouts in obama in '08 and 12 as cold colorado was, they have a bigger pool of people to try the hunt down. >> i was going to agree with patrick. patrick talking about colorado the place where there could be a surprise tomorrow, i think that could be the case. going also you remember when michael bennett was running against kim buck, at the end of that polling it looked like buck was ahead a little bit.
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some show gardner ahead biquite a surprising margin. you're right antonio about the latino vote, it's the only state where that's been a focus in the battle ground states this year. >> what about kansas, we are talking how that could be a surprise for republicans, maybe caucus with the democrats. >> the night before election day about whether the republican will win in kansas. nobody would have ever predicted that, the democrat leaves the race, greg orman saying he could cause of action caucus with anyone -- >> did he make a fawx faux pas? >> i'll tell you wednesday if it was a big faux pas. the anti-sam
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brownback -- >> the governor's race -- >> the eafnt sam antisam brownback. >> michelle nunn now seems to be falling behind david purdue. there's more than two candidates so we might be waiting to know what happens there. >> absolutely. this just shows this is kind of state where this was six years ago, you might have been able to help the democrat by having powx, mrs. obama in or the bidens come in and this just shows what happens when you take away the ammunition that the democrats have had in prior years. this is part of the whole national narrative, the highly questedhighly contested. the interesting race in georgia
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the gloafns governor's's race where jimmy carter's grandson is the nominee. >> last state, north carolina. >> this is part of the interesting thing i think kay hag an holds on an, i think north carolina holds on by a few points. >> two final questions to each of you, is this going to be a wave election for republicans. >> depends on what you mean by wave election. if the republicans end up winning the senate tomorrow night it's not a wave. so much of that changeover is happening in an area where it couldn't possibly -- >> will they win the senate? >> a great question. >> i'll move on to patrick will it be a wave and will it be in favor of the republicans? >> i agree with michael, it is not a republican wave, it is an anti-incumbent wave. i think, that means, the
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democrats lose the senate, the republicans get 71. >> lynn what do you think? >> it does look like, democrats in control of the senate at risk. wave, don't think so. >> lynn sweet, patrick murray and great to see you. >> more on the issues that mean most to voters, and why to politicians have such a hard time telling the truth? a new book analyzes political speak. significant step in new >> election day stay with al jazeera america for live in-depth coverage focusing on the issues with expert analysis and updates from across the country. midterm coverage that's serious, straightforward and unbiased. tonight, 7:00 eastern. on al jazeera america.
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>> at least 16.4 million ballots have already been cast in this election during early voting and while mid term elections are never a big draw for voters, democrats hope they have one last trick up their sleeve before voting ends on tuesday to stay in control of the senate. turnout. >> it all comes down as it always does to who shows up. >> joining me is lynn sweet, and here in new york, al jazeera political correspondent michael shore and peter roth, u.s. news and world report. peter good to have you. >> thank you antonio. >> early voting, it seems that democrats have some reason to hope for better returns than the polls indicate. african american turnout thus far in georgia and north carolina is higher than normal. but you wrote on monday that some democrats are returning to race-baiting and you mentioned
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specifically of the race of kay hagan in north carolina as an example. >> there was a flier, that had a picture of a lynching, kay hagan, the impeachment begins thom tillis to the stand your ground law, which they blame to the george zimmerman, trayvon martin killing. and nothing to do with florida and of course stand your ground is not something that zimmerman stated if in his defense. in maryland, georgia, delaware arkansas is use the killing of michael brown by officer white in ferguson, missouri as a way to tell black voters if you don't come out white policemen are going to shoot you. i think it is insipid, i think
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it is disgusting, i think it is worse than anything the republicans have ever done and that may have generated some excitement in the african american community but quite frankly they're showing not too much enthusiasm in this election nor are white democrats for that example. >> we talked about mary landrieu's dmoments louisiana. >> it is pretty insipid. i don't know that it rises to the most insipid thing that any party has ever done. it is sort of in line of what happens in the last days of the exaibs both campaigns both republicans and democrats. what they're doing is concentrated get out the vote. democrats realize that in order to keep this within the margin of a runoff in georgia and to get landrieu some support they have to get the black vote out.
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>> we'll see if this helps democrats but it's not the only problem they may face, who may be turning out? millenials have helped out in the past but it seems that there's been a switch and millennials are now trending towards republicans. >> yes if they're of those likely to vote. a new poll just came out from harvard university of politics gold standards of millenial survey research. but that kind of information is useful to a campaign in finding out who to target or not. and i want to go back to what we're talking about because at issue is targeting. and that is, you identify who your voter is, it's a combination of using a lot of voting history. of combining that with a lot of data on your consumer habits predictive behavior, what they
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call a high propensity voter and you don't duet targeted target -- you don't get targeted if you are a likely democrat, you do your research and it also goes down to the kid or the volunteer who knocks on your door or takes call. this is all just to feel you out. so i wouldn't go overboard on this because campaigns learned a lot in the last year in figuring out who to target. >> peter -- >> i actually think though that's changing. those millennials in 2012 who voted for obama who are in college are now college graduates living in their parents' basements without jobs. the republican strategy throughout. >> i'm not disagreeing with that. >> the republican strategy throughout has been to talk to lots of people, to talk to sinl women to talk to women, to millenials and latinos.
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unlike the other people on the panel i do see a wave coming a wave being defined as people ending up winning who weren't supposed to win or weren't expected to win. the early voting in iowa is very good for the republicans, the early voting in north carolina even those hagan has 40% of the early ballots are compared and contrasted with 2012 not 2010, which was a much better in terms of early voting. >> and to peter's point, latinos and women, 71% of latinos voting for president obama that it was going to be hopeless for republicans in the future if they didn't turn them in their direction, also the gender gap many more women voting for democrats. both of those are showing softness for the democrats this time around. >> absolutely, i think everyone is surprised how allison
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lunder lundergram grimes is trending and mary landrieu is trending. pay equity is something they have done in the latter weeks of the campaign. >> -- wait wait sir, i'm not sure which of you is speaking. >> michael. >> michael, one, i hope our listeners know this we're really talking about multiple campaigns with their own strategies. >> of course -- >> this generalization of this -- >> let me finish though we're on the same page. this is a series of local elections antonio. >> the way you generalized -- >> i'm talking hypothetically. >> why, we are covering these campaigns or not here. >> i'm saying hypothetically, if you look at these results, we're going to relook and see the way
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which messages and which issues resonated. mark udall in colorado was having a hard time in what was expected to be an easier election to woo women voters. >> wait wait wait, go one one at a time here. how much politics is local and how much is national let's listen to something that mitt romney had to say. >> this is really the last chance for america. to pass judgment on the obama administration and on its policies and the president himself said he's not on the ballot but his policies are. >> peter, joe kline, "time" magazine said, the whole election is about obama but then there are those outs there that say it has nothing to do about obama. your take on it. >> i think for a lot of voters it is about obama. for many of them it was
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culturally unacceptable in their own minds not to like the president. because to not like him, obviously would have to do with his race. but once he was disassembling what was happening on the u.s. mexico border, that bad economy is now surging across the country and you are going to see it in a wave that's going to produce a house pickup of maybe 15 seats and a senate pickup of as many as ten seats. >> you bring up joblessness. lynn i want to talk economy before we're done here. why have the democrats failed oget their message through when it comes to the economy? because you go back to 2012, 9.5% unemployment, the stock market, the dow jones was a little over 11,000. now it's over 17,000 unemployment is down to 5.9%. even if a large percentage of
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americans are not working, a large percentage in more than three decades. but back in 2012 americans thought republicans would do better on the economy only by about 1 percentage point. now it's 9 percentage points and the republicans don't seem to have managed to -- well the democrats haven't sold the economy, clearly, not doing a very good job of selling the economy if republicans are seen as so much better on the economy. >> yes, again, it is -- there is a success story that the white house can say, and i know that the republicans have done a good job of looking at parts of the economy, in different ways and different sectors on it. the white house and the democrats, in all throughout this election have put a big emphasis on raising the minimum wage. that's been used mainly as a turnout tool. i would think that the if you are looking at the 2012 election, every month if you remember we used to wait for that first friday of the month
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where the jobless rate came out and if it was below 8, we thought it would be you know the end of the world because we didn't think it would go down that low and it's much lower than that and if there's a 10th of a opinion difference we were trying to see if it would help romney or obama. when you look at these races the complaint about obama is not the same one as you've heard before. i go back to the separate races, i know this is a national international show but i do hope that our listen know we're trying too hard to nationalize something that's a bunch of different races with different issues and different personalities. i would pull back on this trying to find one narrative to fit everything. >> but it is important to consider the way that different races and different states intersect with gubernatorial contests, and in iowa, the last
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poll i saw, you had terry branstad run 19 points ahead of jack and can't hope but help joanie ernst. in virginia you've seen the phenomenon in the closing weeks of the race, mark warner has a tiny little ethical problem having to do with offering a federal judgeship or the possibility of offering a federal judgeship to the daughter of a democratic state senator which told me. >> you told me -- >> which if i may lynn which told the republican voters around richmond and virginia who liked mark warner, who was a partisan republican guy, was in fact a partisan democrat. is not determined yet. >> big question there, peter roth, lynn suite, michael shore,
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thanks for having you with us. >> thank you antonio. >> we'll have in depth reporting on the issues that matter most to you along with live updates from across the country throughout the night. coming up how to talk like a politician, how they use positive spin to stab their enemies in their back. plus, new information on the virgin galactic crash. >> on the stream >> dark money gone digital how the tech industry is shelling out record amounts on political causes and being more secretive about it than most industries >> the stream on al jazeera america >> it's a chilling and draconian sentence... it simply cannot stand. >> this trial was a sham... >> they are truth seekers... >> all they really wanna do is find out what's happening, so they can tell people... >> governments around the world all united to condemn
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>> welcome back to this preelection edition of "consider this." before we get back to the elections here's some other stories from around the world. we begin in israel where concerns are growing about a possible third palestinian int intenada. palestinian leader mahmoud abbas, told his family he would go to heaven a martyr. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu accused abbas of
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adding fuel to the fire, saying it's time for the international community to condemn him for his actions. next we head to the mojave desert where investigators are searching for reason for the crash. rotating tail section of spaceshiptwo deployed too early. that may have coughed caused it to break up. unable to determine if it was mechanical failure investigators say pilot error has not been ruled out as a potential cause. they added the investigation could take up to a year. and we end in new york city. one world trade center is open for business. nearly 200 employees of publishing joint conde nast have moved in occupying floors 20 through 44.
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60% of the building has already been leased. patrick foy, executive director of the port authority which owns the site said in a statement the new york city skyline is whole again. and that's some of what's happening around the world. coming up as candidates try to win votes across the u.s. we'll look at a big reason many of them can't connect with voters. the bizarre dynamics of political-speak, next.
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>> why don't americans feel they can trust politicians? last year americans rank the honesty and ethical standards of congress next to last just ahead of lobbyists. a big reason may be political speak. 70 years ago george yor well orwell said it made murder sound respectable. co-authors of dog whistles walk backs and washington handshakes decoding the jargon slang and bluster of american political speech. you start the book with that or orwell quote. the american electorate is not buying it. so why spend so much time working on how to say nothing? >> i think basically because the
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candidates get into office and they feel they have turf to protect. and we also have this 24-7 news cycle now where they're afraid of making mistakes. but ironically what happens is they become so scripted a lot of the times that it just when they do make a mistake it gets intlifd and they end up -- amplified and they end up responding to it in the first place. >> even though book is very funny it is driven by a certain amount of resentment, a quiet resentment. [ laughter ] >> so and how big of an issue? do you see this double-speaking? if so many people david hate political, that political nonsense-speech or at least no-substance speech so much why do they use it so much? >> well, in a sense we get the elected officials we deserve and
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we get the political rhetoric we deserve. i think elected officials use this kind of speech because they feel it can be effective. because they can gloss over real issues that voters ought to be paying attention to. and i think just as much as chuck said in this age of instantaneous news, at which timer, et cetera, they're really scared about going off-script and saying something dumb that's going to haunt them. >> when people say they love straight shooters i.t. can be a double edged sword. governor chris christie last week , when he took on critic of the hurricane sandy response. >> turn around, get your 15 minutes of fame and take your jacket off and roll up your sleeves and do something for people of the state. if you want the conversation i'm happy to have it but until then, sit down and shut up!
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>> vice president biden speaks off the cuff a lot and then ends up taking the heat and criticized for being a loose cannon. if we criticize politicians for speaking frankly aren't we partially to blame for all of of it? >> of the people and above the people at the same time, when they cross that line they get into trouble. in christie's case, people want straight talk but they want politeness in politicians too. politics being descending and ugly. biden it's an engrained part of his personality, it sure hasn't stopped him from trying to speak the truth and speak straight to people. >> true. dave, you have broken it down, into all sorts of double-speak
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categories and one of the ones you have is the polite knife in the back. >> right, this is one that you often hear in the halls of congress and the floor of the house and senate, where you hear one elected official members of congress refer to the other, my good friend or some good variation thereof. it's probably wrong, they're probably not good friends, in many cases they don't know each other's name. it's a case of trying to look nice, sticking the knife into the opponent in a not very subtle way. >> a great example of your next category is you guys avoiding the l word which is lyre, we saw it in the kentucky senate race mitch mcconnell doesn't call allison lundergran
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an -- >> four pinocchios, the only one i can think of that got four pinocchios than ms. grimes is the president. >> still bad form to call someone a liar at least to their face as opposed to online or in print. politicians use coded phrases like disingenuous. or preface something with "with all due respect" instead of saying what they want to say. >> you say boldness and extremist, bold to make themselves sound more daring and adverbs that people use over and over and over again. frankly and fundamentally, as you read through this book and you also talk about cliches.
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it brings everything we listen to every single day to life, david and it doesn't do it in a -- it makes you angry or at least it makes me angry. >> members of parties use this word repeatedly, you hear the word "bold" to describe their own policy, bold kind of captures it well that one sillable sillable -- syllable but pollsters tell them to use those words repeatedly. it's no secret that they use these terms over and over again. >> saying nothing, where people like me ask them questions and get very little back. are we much different than other countries, chuck? england they get pretty nasty in parliament.
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>> i think we are different in certain respects. i know in england they have a lot more, we talk about question time in parliament. where the prime minister gets to go down and people just hurl questions at him. i think the 24-7 nature of our news cycle certainly has accelerated this and mait made this much different and much more pronounced in recent years. >> as you go through what you have in the book it really just brings to life just how many of these words and these expressions we have to listen to over and over and over again. and we'll continue hearing them i'm sure. again the book is dog whistles walk-backs and washington handshakes. decoding the jargon slang and bluster of american political speech. chuck and mark pleasure to have you with us. thanks. >> pleasure, thank you. >> reminder, al jazeera's coverage of the mid terms kicks
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